Saturday, February 7, 2009
The Winsome Investment Trust is controlled by Robert J Andres, an attorney in the state of Texas. I placed funds with Andres through Mark Birmbaum of Las Vegas and Warren Chiu of Pennsylvania in February 2007. Apparently our funds were to be used on a commodities trade platform on the Chicago mercantile Exchange but 60 days after our money was with WIT, the story was that our money was frozen by the SEC. WIT had invested funds through a company called US Ventures and not the commodity platform. I have never received and verification that funds were actually frozen. As of today I have discovered that there are several groups who invested a great deal of money after our funds were "frozen" and the purpose of this BLOG is to bring everyone together and formulate a plan.
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WIT has been in existence longer than 5 yrs, it was primarely set-up to buy Bank Gurantees [BG]with another trust backing for funds. I have been waiting for my funds since April-07 with numerous deadlines come and gone from Andres. Does anybody know who is/are these Escrow people from the funds are coming? I think this is another ploy by Andres to delay or push out any payment. His hope is that investors will get tired and go away...
Everyday I watch the news waiting to see these crooks handcuffed and heading off to prison for scaming numerous people out of their life savings. After our conference call a couple of weeks ago I was really hoping something would have happened by now.
Someone tracked the IP adress for this CA.escrow@gmail.com which is coming from NY...i guess that is better than a Houston IP address which would make it look like another delay tactic by Andres
Has anyone received any $ or a call from Andres?
Andres is a hard core game player and a career Attorney/CPA. He is not going to pay anybody anything unless we drag his A.. in court right in Houston. Guys lets not be naive and waist more time and get this legal action started. WIT has money, if Andres can afford to pay30K a month to Holloway's son so his dad can play golf... he has $$$. These guys are still scamming investors from all over the world and funds are flowing into WIT.
Has anyone received a call from the so called Escrow Agent or from Andres?
Doc
When are we going to get the ball rolling on this. Let's not wait any longer. We have been scamed. Now lets get moving. I believe we have all paid the price and are willing to move forward. I know Someone who is losing his home because of these people and I want justice!!!! COme on people lets wake up there is no money they are still scamming people and we are at fault somewhat by sitting and doing nothing. Why others are being taken just like us. What can we do!!!!!
I think another conference call is iminent. If all are in agreement, I can set a conference bridge up.
PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE!!!
What are we waiting for let's get these guys they have had time to come up with the money. There is always tomorrow tomorrow is there famous words lets get going on this.
Please e-mail everyone on this site please tell them to hit the comments at the bottom of the page so they can get to this page where they can see everything I know some people who do not know this is here and some who are having trouble finding this part of the site.
Thursday is already over, no funds, no calls from Andres or his Escrow agent. If anybody has been contacted [i doubt it], please post. Thanks
Doc
What happened to the rich people who said they have seen that the money is here????????????
Lewis is telling people tomorrow. It is in Bob's account, Well I have not seen a dime today, because he told that to two people yesterday nor will I see it tomorrow!! I say time is up no more lying.
Where is ower money!!! Lets not wait let's role. All LIES LIES LIES LIES
Just got word that money is in Bobs account and the funds will be given out tuesday!!! Lewis himself told me. If you or anyone believes him than I have a Island for sell that has oil on it.
Just wanted to tell everyone to see if they have heard anything or something different.
Go on scam someone posted alot about Lewis and Bob and HOlloway. Way to go its about time.
Why is the lawsuit not moving forward!!! Let get moving on this.
This is the admin. I deleted the previous post. The blog is meant to gather the troops and formulate a plan and also to update on what Andres has communicated. The post I deleted just insulted Andres and his crew and did not have substantial information. I agree that these guys have expoited the ignorant and have victimized many but the insults won't lead us to get our money back...As a rule of thumb, post any communication from Andres both current and past if they are relevant as well as ideas on how and when to act. IF there is nothing this week we need to take action and raise money sufficient to get Steven Sweren to start the process. If we have no news, I will coordinate a conference call with some of the other investors who are proactively seeking a resolution.
Anybody heard anything from the elusive Andres or his side kick Lewis? It has been a long wait, many excuses, deadlins come and gone while Andres is enjoying our funds.Lets get the lawsuit started, this is the ONLY way he will pay from his overseas cash stash/hoard.
Any new news or emails from Andres??
I believe some people have gotten paid. While others have not!
Everything has been quiet this week for me in email and on this blog, does anyone have any news?
CA.escrow@gmail.com is simply an email account Andres made up to deceive everyone. There is no California escrow account.
Anybody have heard anything new regarding funds. Andres have gone silent
Doc
This is my third post, can the blog author approve? Who is the blog author?
Doc
I CAN NOT UNDERSTAND HOW EDUCATED PEOPLE ARE STILL BELIEVING IN BOB!! AND IN LEWIS IT HAS BEEN ALMOST 2 MONTHS NOW i BELIEVE TIME IS UP SHARE WHAT YOU KNOW TO ALL OF US RAY AND PAT TIME IS RUNNING OUT AND SO ARE ALOT OF PEOPLE'S PATIENCE. A NEW LAW SUIT IS IN THE MIX IF YOU DO NOT SHARE WHAT IS GOING ON AND HOW MUCH LONGER SILENCE IS NOT GOOD .
AFRAID THAT PEOPLE ARE SHARING TO MUCH THAT YOU HAVE TO CENSOR THIS!! COME ON
What's up with the silence? I haven't even heard of any "good" news lately about the near immediate release (alleged) of our funds.
Anyone have any news?
This is the admin, I didn't realize that there was a setting that made me approve all posts, I have removed that setting..
While we wait and suffer, hear Andres's lip service/emty promises of one kind or another, he is still out there scaming investors and enjoying the free ride. Guys its time for a conf call and PURSUE the lawsuit.
Doc
I am with you on this Doc. Lets get moving I know for a fact that Lewis and Bob are still scamming people. They need to pay!!
This is the last opputunity for any or all of us to find out what happened to our invested funds with WIT. Andres is already gone quite and will fade away eventually leaving all of us [WIT investors] carrying emty bags [as they say bag holders in financial terms].I invested with WIT in 2006 and still waiting for my funds. Please join the legal action group and put Andres where he belong [next cell to Madoff].
Doc
Any new news
This was sent out the other day in case you have not seen it.
Important message to all WIT investors :Please delete the previous message sent by us and read this one instead.
Message to all Winsome Investment Trust investors:
In this message you will find links to new Desist and Refrain Orders issued October 6, 2009 by the State of California against Lewis Scogin of Covenant Trust and Betty Warner and Gene Foster of MacArthur-Birch, LLC. We are also sending you information where you can file a complaint with the State of Alabama Securities Division, Texas Securities Board, and the California Department of Corporations.
The statute of limitations is running, folks. Are you going to let those associated with Winsome Trust walk away with your hard-earned money?
Check out the newest Desist and Refrain Orders:
Lewis Scogin http://www.corp.ca.gov/ENF/pdf/2009/CovenantFamily_dr.pdf
MB LLC (Betty & Gene) http://www.corp.ca.gov/ENF/pdf/2009/MacArthurBirch_dr.pdf
Both of these documents mention that, "The purpose of the offering was to raise capital for Winsome Investment Trust (Winsome) operated by Robert Andres. . ."
Here is where to contact the other agencies:
Alabama Securities Commission
Enforcement Division
770 Washington Ave
Suite 570
Montgomery, AL 36130-4700
Rossi Peters will supply you the complaint form.
Alabama Securites Commission
334-242-2388
Rossi.Peters@asc.alabama.gov
The Commission site is asc.state.al.us
Texas:
Texas State Securities Board Enforcement Division,
P.O. Box 13167
Austin, Texas 78711-3167.
DENISE VOIGT CRAWFORD
Securities Commissioner
(512) 305-8392
Will supply you the complaint form.
California Dept of Corp.
Mary Ann Smith
Senior Corporations Counsel
Enforcement Division
1515 K Street, Suite 200
Sacramento, California 95814
(916) 322-6067
(916) 445-6985
msmith@corp.ca.go
Now is the time to get off the fence and stop this!
http://www.asc.state.al.us/Orders/2009/CD-2009-0040.pdf
Alabama Securities Commission's recently posted Cease & Desist order against Andres & Scogin.
http://www.kleinutah.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/usv-complaint-as-filed.pdf
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